Dumb trades

Screaming DaveScreaming Dave Posts: 781Member
edited August 2016 in Guitar Chat
So, we've all made some dumb trades in our time.  What guitar gave you the biggest buzz to buy, and which guitar do you most regret selling?For me the biggest buzz was my first proper Fender Telecaster (Jap '52 reissue in Candy Apple Red) which I regret selling, and the one I most regret selling would be either my 1980 Les Paul Deluxe (refinished in translucent dark green, a la Yamaha SG2000) or my black SG Junior .... :'(

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  • Derek_RDerek_R Posts: 1,702Member

    I guess the biggest buzz was when I got my Strat back in 79 after saving up £7 a week from my Saturday job until I had the £330 reqd. More recent times I finally got a Martin 00015m, and though there wasn't that buzz at the point of purchase, it's gradually bonded until I've found that everything about it is just right for me - size, tone, feel, action, etc. It's the one I pick up most often, although there are occasions when I go for something else (like when I need one with a pick-up in there for gigs, or I needed a bigger or brighter sound).

    There's nothing I really regret selling as I've never being much of a buyer/seller. I tend to buy a guitar and keep it for thirty years, which is about enough time to figure out if it's going to be a keeper or not.

  • Reg SoxReg Sox Posts: 3,121Member

    Same as Derek really.  I've only ever moved on two guitars.  My starter Yam acoustic, and my early 80's American Strat that I hated.

    I did lose a lovely Maton electro acoustic that I bought when I lived in Oz in the late 80s/early 90s.  It was a beauty, but got lost in a storage warehouse fire courtesy of Pickfords, The Careful Movers (sic) when we moved from Oz to the US.

    The best guitars in the world are the ones I own today - otherwise why would I have them and keep them!

    Cheers, Reg.

  • MegiMegi Posts: 7,190Member

    I don't know if I have a "best" really - I'm contemplating selling a few of my less-used guitars on to be honest. I guess the one guitar that I would find most able to cover all the gigs I do is my humble red Shine SIL-510. But it's such an inexpensive guitar - that can't be the best there is surely? For shear thrill, in a way I'd pick one of the ones I've made from parts - there is something wonderful about planning and then creating a real live instrument. I did once have a go playing a 1934 (if I remember the year right) Gibson L5 acoustic arch top, which really was some guitar - whatever we say about the current offerings, they really knew what they were doing back then.

  • SmartySmarty Posts: 403Member

    I really regret selling my Anderson Cobra. Outstanding guitar in every way....build quality, sound, playability...

    I off loaded it because I was convinced I wanted an Anderson hollow T more (which I now have and adore), but I still wish I had that Cobra...! Maybe I'm just greedy!!!!!

  • Kevin PeatKevin Peat Posts: 3,185Member

    My Epiphone DR 100 acoustic (natural)

    I really REALLY can't fault it. And that it cost only £80 new gives me a real buzz. It even looks decent.

    I'm astonished to say that it's my favourite acoustic to date. It knocks the socks off many of the high end guitars I've played. 

  • Screaming DaveScreaming Dave Posts: 781Member

    Hey, Megi, it's true there's something indefinable about truly old guitars.  I was lucky enough to play an old Gibson Jazzer once.  There was a jazz band playing at a university garden party (ooh, get me!) and I got chatting to the guitarist about his old Gibbo and he just handed it to me and said, "Here, have a go ..."  I still have a photo somewhere of me playing it.  Happy days

  • waylonwaylon Posts: 44Member

    That was my first guitar
    http://www.swee****er.com/store/detail/C5Classical
    It was ok for begining, but i don't like neck of this guitar.
    Three weeks ago i bought this cheap beauty
    https://gb.muzyczny.pl/113817_...electric-guitar.html
    It's great for rock, blues, country, jazz and even heavier rock songs.

  • Mark PMark P Posts: 2,314Member

    The biggest "buzz" to buy? Tricky!

    Nearly all electric guitars I've bought have needed a change to the stock pick ups to be special enough to be worth keeping, so the initial buzz was negated by a realisation they weren't good enough and I can't recall now how good the buzz was. Most successful purchase / buzz as stock - a Vintage V100 Lemon Drop, despite the "relic" finish looking awful. It immediately got me playing the best music on electric guitar in my life and resulted in a feverish peak of activity for a few months.

    Oddly, immediately followed by a total switch to acoustic guitar. Like I had a realisation I could take things no further with the electric guitar. Sort of takes the shine off that initial buzz - an instrument so good it writes its own death warrant - bizarre!

    Biggest buzz from an acoustic purchase? The Lowden. Unfortunately I wasn't good enough for it - an acoustic guitar needs more than just great sound and sustain and quality of build! It needs to be part of a partnership where the two of you can be creative and musical. This doesn't happen if the guitar is so good it needs physical controls from you that need skills you don't have.

    In general I don't feel I know for sure if a guitar I've bought was a good decision for at least a few weeks.

    Regrets? None on selling the Lowden. None on selling a Tokai Les Paul Custom that was less than a year earlier my favourite guitar ever. Just one regret of a sale I think. I sold a Vintage VSA590 - a "Casino" type semi acoustic with P90s, to help fund a new Gibson SG with P90s that was going to be the crown of my collection and "that" special guitar. My enthusiasm and optimism got the better of me.

    Turned out that for me the VSA590, regardless of price, was the much better guitar - for sound and for creativity! The Gibson sounded fine played on it's own, but put it in a mix with other instruments or on a recording and it couldn't cut through. P90s that can't cut through .... WHAT???!!! Found out it had pickups with special connections and a PCB that didn't allow just replacing a capacitor - along with bizarre choices of pot values and pots that could not be individually replaced - but I could rip out the electrics and void the warranty! SOLD and pleased to get rid of it!

    My biggest buzz these day is that I have an acoustic collection with no expensive guitars and that they still manage to provide all the musical sounds and feelings from the music that I need, or have the skills to make.

  • SmartySmarty Posts: 403Member

    Mark - just listened to some of your recordings (nice playing bytheway!). All your recordings sound great but that Lowden was immense! Incredible tone. 

  • Screaming DaveScreaming Dave Posts: 781Member

    Gibson have done some weird things, to be sure.  Part of the problem is that often what looks like a P90 isn't actually a P90.  They do P100s which are actually a stacked coaxial humbucker, and other things which are meant to be an improvement, but the fact that none of us have ever heard of them speaks for itself!

  • Mark PMark P Posts: 2,314Member
    Smarty posted:

    Mark - just listened to some of your recordings (nice playing bytheway!). All your recordings sound great but that Lowden was immense! Incredible tone. 

    Yep - great sound! But difficult to control for my ability level and oddly I had a lack of connection with the instrument in a wanting to pick it up and be creative way. Always a bad sign when the guitar that's nearest to where you sit doesn't get picked up and played very often.

    Thank you for your positive thoughts on my playing!

    Screaming Dave posted:

    Gibson have done some weird things, to be sure.  Part of the problem is that often what looks like a P90 isn't actually a P90.  They do P100s which are actually a stacked coaxial humbucker, and other things which are meant to be an improvement, but the fact that none of us have ever heard of them speaks for itself!

    Very true!

    But I hope with that SG I had that they were P90s and not P100s as the guitars were sold on the basis of being P90s in the model description! I think the main problem with the pickups on the Gibson that I ended up selling was although they could dish out grit they lacked natural sustain and they also lacked the level of brightness I would expect from a P90. When played clean or with low levels of overdrive a too rapid drop off in output after the initial note was played I feel was the main problem they had in not cutting through the mix. Too high an output I suspect, though I did try backing the pickups from the strings to little effect. The choices of pot values seemed a bit odd to me as well but with the PCB design it was a bit difficult to know what electrical setup was in use - and no details of the PCB setup were available to me.

    Last time I looked 100% of the sound samples on Gibsons site for SGs employed heavy overdrive which makes me wonder if they gear up the instrument to be played that way and maybe leave the job of producing sustain to the amp and pedals. But I did have a Gibson SG Standard many years ago that I bought used and that had no problems with being played clean or with low overdrive - a very nice guitar.

  • Screaming DaveScreaming Dave Posts: 781Member

    I think you just described P90s generally there. The ones on my '65 Jr are the same. The have a fantastic tone but not much sustain. That's why I still play SG Standards live

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