Did a bit of bedroom recording

DruidDruid Posts: 258Member
edited March 2017 in Community Member Performances
Did a bit of bedroom recording and stuck results up on youtube this week (don't be fooled by staging, hung a black sheet over the wardobe and lighting effect is added with adobe). Anyway feeback, constructive criticisms appreciated. Setup was mic and guitar plugged into a tc-helicon harmony G-XT (for vocal effects) and the output fed into a Roland Street Cube. Sound is pretty much as picked up by the camcorder (a cheapo canon jobbie). Please have a shufty and leave some feedback if you'd be so kind peeps.

My efforts can be found (endured) Here (My Youtube Channel)

p.s. It's singer/songwriter country oriented acoustic song covers stuff so if your only into rock god guitar could be very disappointing.

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  • Druid!

    That is --ooops naughty word-- --ooops naughty word-- blody BRILLIANT

    LOVED IT

    ROLL OVER MARK KNOPHLER I SAY.

    Absoloutely loved it.

    Only watched the first one because thats life with business to run etc. etc.etc.

    Proud to have you as a forum member.

    You have your first fan.
  • OK- I just had to listen to another one.

    Is this all covers?
  • martinjamesdaleymartinjamesdaley Posts: 661Member
    Fantastic stuff...!!
  • I think you have a great voice for this stuff, you look the part, could easily do well performing in bars, clubs etc. good money in solo performances in pubs - are you doing any performance work?
  • martinjamesdaleymartinjamesdaley Posts: 661Member
     Originally Posted By: Richard - Richards Guitars
    I think you have a great voice for this stuff, you look the part, could easily do well performing in bars, clubs etc. good money in solo performances in pubs - are you doing any performance work?


    +1 for Rich's comments! I'd pay to see you! Certainly a few notches above the "usual" type of acts you see in pubs.
  • DruidDruid Posts: 258Member
    Hi Richard
    Thank you so much for the kind comments \:\) I did a few gigs in a bar in bournemouth when I was living down south but haven't done anything really for the last twelve months or so since I moved back up to the midlands. I'm trying to get my confidence together again and sort out a reasonable set & consistency of style that hangs together, hence the videos really. The feedback is important, and greatly appreciated, as it both allows me to get some idea of what others hear and see when I get behind the mic and gives me an opportunity to take on board what people have to say before I put myself out there for real. I'm plugging away trying to find the material that works and feel very comfortable doing the slower ballads but of course I need to try and get sufficient diversity of material that me picking and rasping away for 45 minutes + doesnt bore the audience \:\)

    Anyway, thank you once again for your comments, they really mean a lot to me \:\)
  • DruidDruid Posts: 258Member
     Originally Posted By: martinjamesdaley
     Originally Posted By: Richard - Richards Guitars
    I think you have a great voice for this stuff, you look the part, could easily do well performing in bars, clubs etc. good money in solo performances in pubs - are you doing any performance work?


    +1 for Rich's comments! I'd pay to see you! Certainly a few notches above the "usual" type of acts you see in pubs.



    Thank you, means a great deal to me to hear that
  • Noise_MakerNoise_Maker Posts: 714Member
    Wotcha Druid.

    Very enjoyable indeed. I'll be taking a look through the other vids over the next few days.
  • OldSwannerOldSwanner Posts: 56Member
    Sounds pretty darned good to me overall and *great* in places (when the harmonies kick in).

    If you're looking to improve, I'd focus on separating your vocals from the guitar playing more. For example in the verse for Sunday Morning you sing each syllable bang in time with each note you play on the guitar .. on the original there's a lot more freedom in the rhythm of the lyric, which I think adds a lot, and its omission is a weakness in your version.

    Can offer advice on how to approach dealing with this if you like.
  • DruidDruid Posts: 258Member
     Originally Posted By: OldSwanner
    Sounds pretty darned good to me overall and *great* in places (when the harmonies kick in).

    If you're looking to improve, I'd focus on separating your vocals from the guitar playing more. For example in the verse for Sunday Morning you sing each syllable bang in time with each note you play on the guitar .. on the original there's a lot more freedom in the rhythm of the lyric, which I think adds a lot, and its omission is a weakness in your version.

    Can offer advice on how to approach dealing with this if you like.




    Yes please, any advice greatly received. I'm very conscious of my vocal timing being very much dictated by the guitar. I've noticed that when I relax I can achieve a greater fluidity and separate the two elements to a greater extent, when I'm listening intently to what I'm playing and trying to remember where to go next with the picking my vocals get kind of locked to the guitar. I hadnt noticed it so much in Sunday Morning but in Martha as I listened back to it I became very aware of locking my vocal phrasing to chord changes, so yes, any advice on techniques to break the habit would be greatly appreciated, thanks \:\)
  • OldSwannerOldSwanner Posts: 56Member
    Cool .. should make an interesting project with a top notch final product!

    Ok my first 2 suggestions ...

    1) Do another video of Sunday Morning (I like that one) in which you strum only on the first beat of each bar ie. keep the guitar part as simple as it gets.

    2) Make a recording of your full guitar part (or get a MIDI file) and then post a video of yourself singing along with it.

    Each of these gives more space in the brain to focus on vocal phrasing, and you should learn a fair bit from viewing these back.

    Watching with interest!
  • DruidDruid Posts: 258Member
     Originally Posted By: OldSwanner
    Cool .. should make an interesting project with a top notch final product!

    Ok my first 2 suggestions ...

    1) Do another video of Sunday Morning (I like that one) in which you strum only on the first beat of each bar ie. keep the guitar part as simple as it gets.

    2) Make a recording of your full guitar part (or get a MIDI file) and then post a video of yourself singing along with it.

    Each of these gives more space in the brain to focus on vocal phrasing, and you should learn a fair bit from viewing these back.

    Watching with interest!


    Righty O' \:\) Thanks for the suggestions, I'll give them a go and try to post some resuls shortly \:\)
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    this kind of music isnt usually my thing. im pretty impatient when viewing youtube stuff and usually click to another vid if im not into the one im viewing. however i watched a couple of yours through and found myself enjoying them. im too much of a begginer to offer any advice but you must be doing something right as ill be back for more.

    well done,

    Neil
  • So chuffed that some feedback has been posted by Swanner and the like. I always think quality should be appreciated and there is definitely something about you which hits all the right buttons.

    I would also say not to worry too much about boring an audience - when you are playing in a restaurant / bar etc. I think it is different to a performance on stage where you need to keep their attention the whole time. The easier it is to listen to the easier it is for them to have their conversation yet appreciate what is going on in the "background".

    Always nice to have a bit of up beat styff mixed in though I agree.

    My comment would be not to OVER analyse - if you have something that seems to be working, accept the appreciation and milk it! Don't look for problems if they are not there.

    Very best of luck with all your plans.
  • oh forgot to mention... You may know Swanner is an old pro performer so he knows his stuff - would imagine if he is offering advice its worth exploring!

    He certainly lived up my wedding day with his band 10 years ago!
  • DruidDruid Posts: 258Member
     Originally Posted By: Richard - Richards Guitars
    So chuffed that some feedback has been posted by Swanner and the like. I always think quality should be appreciated and there is definitely something about you which hits all the right buttons.

    I would also say not to worry too much about boring an audience - when you are playing in a restaurant / bar etc. I think it is different to a performance on stage where you need to keep their attention the whole time. The easier it is to listen to the easier it is for them to have their conversation yet appreciate what is going on in the "background".

    Always nice to have a bit of up beat styff mixed in though I agree.

    My comment would be not to OVER analyse - if you have something that seems to be working, accept the appreciation and milk it! Don't look for problems if they are not there.

    Very best of luck with all your plans.


    Thanks Richard. Me too \:\) To be honest I'm a bit overwhelmed by how positive & complementary the feedback's been, it's a huge confidence booster. You're spot on with the don't over analyse things advice, I know that analysing things to a standstill is a trap I fall into too often, so getting the positive encouragement I've received from yourself and others here on the forum really is a great help. I'm definitely going to take on board Swanner's advice on the vocal flow and give his suggested techniques a go but yes, overall I'm seriously chuffed and grateful that I've received so much constructive feedback and encouragement from you guys so huge thanks for taking the time to watch the vids and post back your thoughts on them.. Drinks on me when I get out there and do some gigs \:\)
  • Hey - I just love positive energy!!!! ITS GREAT ISN'T IT?

    I have been reading a book today called "I can make you Rich" by Paul McKenna" but what I love about it is that its about thinking Rich and what it means by Rich is appreciating lifes value and all the day to day things which we often overlook. Find value in what you do and who you are and you are a Rich man indeed. Its priceless.
  • OldSwannerOldSwanner Posts: 56Member
     Originally Posted By: Richard - Richards Guitars

    He certainly lived [sic livened?] up my wedding day with his band 10 years ago!


    Can still remember it well .. best version of Agadoo we ever mustered!!
  • DaveBassDaveBass Posts: 3,315Member
    Very nice. You're easily good enough to perform in public, if you can find the right venues.

    I especially liked Martha.

    I can't help comparing Bird On A Wire with Leonard Cohen's original in my memory banks. The sus4 chords are an original contribution. But the key is too high for you; you're struggling in some places! You could sing the high bits an octave lower, or maybe move the whole thing down a few notches -- take off that capo! Croaking is permissible with Cohen songs.

    Maybe a bit of reverb on the vocals would help.

    There certainly isn't any problem with your guitar playing! For live performance, it's perfect as far as I can tell!

    Dave
  • stickyfiddlestickyfiddle Posts: 355Member
    Only just got to sit down and listen to these. Really really good stuff. Not a huge fan of this sort of thing but I really enjoyed all of it.

    Fantastic stuff
  • DruidDruid Posts: 258Member
    Agadoo!!! ... blurdy 'ell, there must have been some ale flowing to get that one in the set ;\)

    DaveBass, thank you. Yes, lost the gravel a bit on Bird on the wire, I vary the key on that one depending on how I'm feeling at the time, I kind of like the sound of the guitar when I play it a bit higher but I struggle to keep the husky bits on the vocals when I do. Thats why this feedback is so invaluable and appreciated, ultimately I'm not the one hearing it so the comments are really helping me massively to figure out what might work best. Thanks \:\)
  • DruidDruid Posts: 258Member
     Originally Posted By: stickyfiddle
    Only just got to sit down and listen to these. Really really good stuff. Not a huge fan of this sort of thing but I really enjoyed all of it.

    Fantastic stuff


    That's brill \:\) Thank you. \:\)
  • DaveBassDaveBass Posts: 3,315Member
    As a general rule, it's a good idea to focus on the vocals. To the average punter, it's the singing that matters, and as long as you don't play any obviously wrong notes the accompaniment will be fine. You can even get away with breaking strings if you don't make a fuss about it.

    (As they say in jazz bands, if you all start and finish at the same time, the audience will think everything you did in between was deliberate!)

    Also, singing is something everybody can do -- or thinks they can do -- whereas guitar playing is regarded as a specialised, somewhat technical activity. There are probably going to be only a few guitarists in the audience, and most of them won't be as good as you. You won't get much criticism on that front.

    So to sum up, your playing is fine; just concentrate on refining the singing, which is what most people listen to.

    Dave
  • Could not agree more. I think the acoustic side is doing what it should - accompanying (background wash) the vocal.

    I am sure there is also some logic that the more relaxed you feel playing the "wash" the better, making it so much easier to express your emotion in your singing.

    If you feel like you are rubbing your head while patting your tummy it won't sound as natural will it.
  • DruidDruid Posts: 258Member
     Originally Posted By: Richard - Richards Guitars
    Could not agree more. I think the acoustic side is doing what it should - accompanying (background wash) the vocal.

    I am sure there is also some logic that the more relaxed you feel playing the "wash" the better, making it so much easier to express your emotion in your singing.

    If you feel like you are rubbing your head while patting your tummy it won't sound as natural will it.


    this is true \:\)
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